Leaves of Three also shows the Ventrue in New York City infested with Antitribu under Count Orsi, with his Orsi International, and the traitor Dominic scheming for more power in the Camarilla hierarchy. Vukodlak the Tzimisce Antediluvian (literally, before the Flood, as the Book of Nod declares such grandchilder of Caine were begotten in the First City of Enoch) is the ultimate villain in Redemption, and even mentioned in the Leaves of Three Backstory despite his state of torpor, all the forces of the Sabbat are at his command, through the Tzimisce. The Tzimisce's concern with Fleshcrafting is doubtless the primary reason for the corpses hung like dry cleaning conveyed through the factory
A Ventrue concern in a Sabbat town inevitably one such would become an Antitribu Ventrue enterprise in alliance with the Tzimisce.